February 21, 2001: Letters

Calling all ministers

Rabbi no first

Demeaning demeanor

Punch and ruler

Olympic oops

Majorca mistake

Growing up liberal

Climbing the wall

Whither Writer Wylie

Caldwell conker

Princeton and me

From the Archives


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Calling all ministers

In your opening column in the December 20 issue, you said, " . . . at the turn of the 21st century it's hard to believe that alumni would be interested in becoming ministers of the gospel." I wonder if you could, as they say, "unpack that" a bit. I'd be very curious to know what your presuppositions are about vocation in the 21st century. Do you assume that graduates will care only for money, have no concern for human souls, be unresponsive to God's call? Do you assume that a Princeton education, current model, deafens a student to all this? If so, I think those of us who have different values would like to know it.

Perhaps you could also tell us what a minister sounds like. We learn that Corey Brennan "doesn't sound like a minister" because "she's bubbly and laughs a lot." But what is the quintessential ministerial sound in your experience? I thought I heard one the other day on a bird walk but wasn't sure, so your guidance would be valuable.

Christopher L. Webber '53
Sharon, Conn.

 

I was interested to read the statements of and concerning the five graduates, classes of 1987 and later, who have "gone into the ministry."

The main point of interest is that they all seem to have done so from largely humanitarian reasons. One wouldn't expect it from the rabbi, but the other four are active in Christian churches; and, as reported anyway, not one mentioned Jesus Christ as connected either to their calling or subsequent ministry. They all spoke about God; but Jesus is the "author and finisher" of the Christian faith, and it seems strange to leave Him out.
Is there something missing here, or am I imagining things?

Joseph E. Upson '33
North Sandwich, N.H.

 

Your article Hearing the Call (December 20), did a great job sharing the stories and perspectives of the five ministers profiled. But I found parts of the article's introduction and most of the From the Editor commentary to be condescending. The points you made about lucrative alternatives, and how the church's place in society has changed, are valid and worth exploring; but I was bothered by the tone of the "Why on earth would anyone do this?"
questions.

The article asks "Why would a would-be clergy [person] choose an expensive school like Princeton?" Could this be asking whether the small fortune required to fund four years at Princeton might be better spent helping those in need? Or does it mean that ordained ministry somehow is not worthy of receiving Princeton graduates? (That was my first reading of it.) I liked Father Harris's excellent reply. I would just add that clergypersons (along with many in other, nonreligious occupations) value and care for individuals, regardless of education or wealth; encourage community (as opposed to being a consumer who is part of a "market"); and work for justice. Religious groups often are maddeningly slow in pursuing these goals, and occasionally do damage to them, but at least we include such goals among our reasons for being.

My complaints above may be subjective, but I am on more solid ground when I object to the editor's statement "there are scores of alumni serving as [pastors and rabbis]." According to my class's 20th reunion yearbook, 1 percent listed ministry as their profession. So it is likely that there are at least 10 such persons just in my class, and probably more than that in each of the earlier classes. Perhaps there are fewer than 10 in each of the more recent classes, but perhaps not. The total certainly is in the hundreds, possibly over a thousand if retired alumni are included. I'd be interested to hear what a computer query shows!

Anne Carter Emidy '79
Winthrop, Maine

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Rabbi no first

I read with interest Karen Regelman '89's article (November 22) about Rabbi Josh Zweiback '91 and his unconventional approach to the rabbinate. I was taken aback by Ms. Regelman's claim that "Rabbi Yosh" is only the second "full-time adult-learning teacher [of Judaism] . . . in American Jewry."

Jewish tradition teaches us that adult Jewish study is even older than the Talmud -- tradition takes it back beyond the recording of the Five Books of Moses. Even in America it is hardly new; whether discussing beginners' programs or studies for advanced scholars, hundreds of Orthodox rabbis and teachers make their careers in this area. One such individual is Rabbi Yaakov Menken '86, director of Torah.org, the Internet's premier Jewish education site.

Even those most enthusiastic about Rabbi Zweiback's chosen career should not dismiss those who came before -- including other Princeton alumni!

Robert Chesler '86
Hudson, N.H.

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Demeaning demeanor

My wife and I, along with some friends, attended the Harvard football game. It was a delightful day in our new stadium to enjoy a spirited game. However, we were distressed to find one of the two major retail stands at the stadium offering objectionable items -- such as "Yale Sucks" and "Duck Fartmouth" T-shirts. This activity was apparently with the full support of the university. It is bad enough that our society is daily subjected to entertainment and media tawdriness supported and encouraged by many social, political, and business leaders, but must Princeton degrade itself in this manner?

Jim Cottrell '53
Rumson, N.J.

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Punch and ruler

All the recent discussion about the relative accuracy of punch-card voting machines led me to think back to freshman year and Physics 101, Physics for the Non-scientist. The class was divided into groups of four or five, with each group given a 12-inch ruler. The assignment was to measure the length of the long hall -- in Palmer as I remember -- as accurately as possible. Needless to say, the results arrived at by the different teams varied (I assume in some sort of bell curve), and this was a good lesson to me that the accuracy of measurements is directly affected by the tool used for the measuring! When I was down on my hands and knees on the cold floor of the hall, I never suspected that I would be thinking of the experience almost 40 years later.

John Lamb, Jr. '66
Dallas, Tex.

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Olympic oops


Oops. Your correspondent for rowing events at Sydney reported that "none of the American rowing teams earned a medal in Sydney. . . . " In fact several Americans did: Sebastian Bea and Ted Murphy won silver in the men's pair, Karen Kraft and Missy Ryan won bronze in the women's pair, and Sarah Garner and Christine Collins won bronze in the women's lightweight double sculls.

Never trust a baseball writer to report on rowing. One giveaway is his reference to rowing "teams" rather than crews.

Jerome Evans *60
South Lake Tahoe, Calif.

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Majorca mistake

What a surprise to learn in your interesting profile of William Merwin '48 (November 8) that he had at one time lived in the Majorca Islands. It has been my good fortune to be a resident of Majorca, which along with Minorca, Ibiza, Formentera, and Cabrera is one of the Balearic Islands since 1991. I cannot help but wonder whether our distinguished fellow alumnus Temple Fielding '39, long-time resident of the breathtaking bay of Formentor, and poet Robert Graves, who lived until his death in the town of Deià, would be appalled or entertained by this geographical gaffe.

Victoria Howell Fustér '73
Palma de Mallorca, Spain

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Growing up liberal

The pattern of left- and right-leaning ought to be apparent to William B. Smith *63, though perhaps his own undergraduate experience was at variance with a pattern at Ivy League colleges (Letters, October 25).

To matriculate in a four-year bachelor's degree program is usually a result of a cooperative effort of the student and parents. The expense involved is considerable, but in expectation that the diploma from Princeton will translate into future prosperity, the expense is relegated to the status of a temporary deficit/seed money. The parents, perhaps alumni themselves, endorse -- and even underwrite -- the program, knowing the value of the investment.

Students' political attitudes are shaped at home, and in order not to rock the financial boat, the student-parent cooperation involves the continuity of conservatism. What joy there must have been among parents, following the Princeton student presidential election of 1936, for example, when Landon beat Roosevelt. And what howls of laughter among the alumni must have followed the succinct Class of 1922 note, 20 years later, that "Word reaches us from Chicago that a group of citizens have put Ad Stevenson up for president."

Conversely, what a shock it must be for parents to discover that outside the home there are other influences on their children, influences alien to their own, and influences in a setting, moreover, that those parents had so heartily endorsed.

If parents don't want a liberal education for their progeny, they ought to help them shop for a slot where the administration and the faculty espouse a uniformity of conservative thought similar to their own. The four undergraduate years may be the only time in students' lives when they are exposed to balanced ideological thought. To those who lean far to the right, everything will be seen as left-leaning. Besides, exposure doesn't imply conversion.

W. W. Keen James '51
Albion, R.I.

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Climbing the wall

Your article on rock climbing at Princeton did a great job of conveying the unique and diverse community involved in this activity (feature, November 8). I would also like to thank you for the mention of our fundraising efforts to build a new climbing wall to replace the present wall which will be demolished, along with the Armory, in the next few years. I would like to point out one error, however. Joe Palmer, the alumnus who was killed in a climbing accident in 1985, and in whose memory we are raising funds for the new climbing wall, was a member of the class of 1984, not 1983 as mentioned in your article.

Joe was quite a character on campus, and is remembered fondly by many of his classmates. I'm sure there are a number of people who would consider contributing, either in memory of Joe, or out of support for the continued existence of the climbing community at Princeton. Donations can be sent to Outdoor Action, 330 Alexander Road, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544.

John McNerney '84
Vergennes, Vt.

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Whither Writer Wylie

In addition to Eugene O'Neill '10 and F. Scott Fitzgerald '17, Philip Wylie '24 can be added to the examples of well- known Princeton writer-dropouts mentioned by Richard Trenner '70 in the December 20 issue (feature). Encouraged by his parents to pursue a career in either the Presbyterian ministry or law, Wylie left college in his senior year to follow his bliss as a writer. He started with a fledgling magazine called the New Yorker.
Wylie feared that having a B.A. might tempt him to accept a fall-back position in some more conventional realm -- something his parents would have liked even after (or especially when!) he became famous as the author of Generation of Vipers. Besides, he felt the honorary D. Litt. he eventually received from the University of Miami in Florida was worth more -- because of his having earned it for his contributions to American culture -- than a bachelor's degree acquired after four years on intellectual cruise control.

George Reiger '60
Locustville, Va.

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Caldwell conker

I'm afraid Charlie Caldwell '25's errant throws had nothing to do with the Yankee careers of either Lou Gehrig or Babe Ruth (Letters, October 11). Total Baseball, the game's statistical bible, lists Charlie's Yankee record as three games in 1925. He pitched a few innings and had no decisions. (See page 1452.) Of course, he could have whacked guys in batting practice, but he could hardly have launched Gehrig's career since "Columbia Lou" joined the club in 1923. True, he played his first full season in 1925, although the traditional story is that he took over first base when Wally Pipp ill-advisedly sat down to nurse a headache, thereby starting Lou on his 2,130 consecutive-game streak.

As for Babe Ruth departing the mound for the outfield after winging Charlie with a pitch, it must be remembered that Babe was acquired by the Yankees in 1920, after six years with the Red Sox as one of the league's superior pitchers. The Yanks wanted his bat, though, and Babe had been playing terrific outfield and hitting terrific homers for five years when Charlie arrived in New York.

Adie Suehsdorf '38
Sonoma, Calif.

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Princeton and me

Perhaps because I am Class of 1948 and World War II was a fresh memory, I joined the Princeton branch of United World Federalists, becoming New York State president in 1961. Every year the United Nations and the World Court came a little closer to that concept. After graduation, with a history B.A., I joined the International Film Foundation, founded by my father's classmate Julian Bryan '22.

My first independent film was Trick or Treat for UNICEF, to promote the idea that American children could raise money to help poorer children around the world. My wife and filmmaking partner, Sherry LaFollette, and I were in Budapest during the Cuban missile crisis and at Aswan, in Egypt, when the Soviets were building the "High Dam." We were always treated with the utmost courtesy. We have spent 28 years together making films with "a global view." And it all started at Princeton.

George A. Zabriskie, Jr. '48
Brooklyn Heights, N.Y.

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From the Archives

It was with a shock of recognition and pleasure that I turned to the From the Archives of the November 8 issue.

The place pictured was 43 Blair, two entries west of the Arch. My roommate, John F. A. Taylor '36 *40 and I lived there our senior year and the names that figure so prominently in the fireplace panel are ours. John's name is incised deeply and firmly; mine less so and it lacks the "s" on the end because I never finished it. Lest you feel this was a wanton act of vandalism it should be noted that John, particularly, was a scholar and a gentleman. His senior thesis was a tightly reasoned exploration of the philosophy of Immanuel Kant; he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and certainly magna and probably summa cum laude; and he went on to get a Ph.D. from the Graduate School and become a highly respected and revered professor at Michigan State. He married my cousin, whom he met only the day we graduated when my uncle, Robinson V. Frost 1898, came over with his family to help celebrate the occasion. While John was enrolled in the Graduate School the impecunious newlyweds endured the hot, steamy Princeton summers house-sitting Einstein's house on Mercer Street, which enabled Einstein to enjoy the cool breezes of Cape Cod.

Students lived well in those days; 43 Blair was in fact a small suite with a good-sized living room -- with a fireplace that worked -- and we each had our own bedroom large enough to accommodate a desk, bookcase, and all things necessary for quiet study. We also had janitor service of a sort. He made up the room daily -- but I did put a shoestring under the bed in the fall, and it was still there in the spring. Students live in far less luxury today. The last time I saw the room, there were six or eight people
living in it.

I have wondered, since Blair was gutted in the recent renovation, if the panel was discarded? If it was and is still available and no one else wants it, I would love to have it.

I realize this is far more than an answer to your simple question, "Where was it?" One does tend to reminisce.

Edward D. Winters '36
Gulfport, Fla.

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